The vegan versus omnivore argument is often high on emo-
tions and irritation and low on evidence and facts. Vegans
walk in locked and loaded with arguments about ethics (or
the lack thereof), sustainability, and environmental hazards
that come with animal agriculture, while omnivores pose the
“but where do you get your protein?” and “how will you build
muscle mass?” questions. Tension fills the air as the two sides
speculate about whether or not vegetarianism was the main
diet throughout human history.
This can often be a superiority competition disguised as
rational debate. Does choosing a specific diet make anyone a
better person? In recent conversations with nutritionist Erin
Burch and Ashker’s operations manager Tim Gavigan, the topics are veganism and its relationship to sustainability, classism, privilege, and more. Because the two interviews took
widely diverging directions, they are presented separately.